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alright I'm ready for the answer what is

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different about our response to this

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virus versus the ones you cite or why

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why the difference it's us it's the

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reaction and I think a few things have

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been going on here

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one is they've been working on this by

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they I mean the public health people the

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media they've been working on this since

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aids which was the first epidemic that's

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that's where I kind of ground my teeth

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beginning in 1987 I wrote a book on it I

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wrote countless articles you may recall

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we were told the the disease of them is

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suddenly the disease of us aids doesn't

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discriminate on and on and on and it was

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off it was all fake aids was always a

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disease of gay men intravenous drug

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users and originally recipients of blood

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and blood products it was always that

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way it remains that way in the United

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States today these people lied I mean

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there's no polite way of saying they

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lied because they thought they were

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doing you know the Lord the Lord's work

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they decided that to the extent the AIDS

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was seen as a disease of undesirables it

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wouldn't get the kind of attention and

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money it deserved and I will grant them

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this they were incredibly successful to

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this day AIDS is the second biggest line

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item in the the National Institutes of

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Health Research budget my point was the

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bad guys as I as I call them they don't

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see themselves as bad guys but they were

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liars and they intentionally lied and

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they got away with it they got away with

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it beyond their wildest dreams the ends

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justified the means in their mind though

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because they didn't want this to be a

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stigmatized community the gays etc and

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so they said let's

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like this affects everyone equally I

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totally agree with you and I've always

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thought that and you've proven it with

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your book so okay keep going

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but it's not just the idea it's the

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people themselves because two of the

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biggest culprits perhaps you've heard

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their names were Anthony foul G and

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Robert Redfield if you look at my book

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my 1990 book Redfield is on 24 different

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pages of my book vouchers and there are

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other fewer pages but foul she actually

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kicked off basically the hysteria

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with a paper that he's solely authored

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in 1983 saying it looked like aids could

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be spread through basically like a flu

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if you be spread within a family he

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published that paper in 1983 the very

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next year he was appointed to his

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current position at the National

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infectious National Institute of

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allergies and infectious diseases that

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was his reward for being spectacularly

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wrong but wrong in the right direction

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he was alarmist ly wrong Redfield was

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wrong basically just across the board

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including co-authoring a paper that said

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your chance of getting AIDS through

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vaginal contact was fifty percent per

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sex act so basically after three acts of

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sex between a man and a woman if one or

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the other had HIV the other would get it

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that's that's insane it's it's probably

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on the order of thousands of acts of

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intercourse thousands so Redfield was

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spectacularly wrong

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now one of the two top infectious

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disease people in the country and

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Redfield is the other one it pays to be

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spectacularly wrong if you're wrong in

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the right direction so my point in

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bringing was bringing all this up is the

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bad guys

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as I put it public health people the

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media they've learned from AIDS that you

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cannot just get away with this

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but spectacularly so so we have seen it

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time and again since we saw it with

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avian flu that was supposed to kill

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millions and millions of people

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it kills 400 we saw it with SARS it was

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supposed to kill millions and millions

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of people he killed 744 we saw with mad

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cow disease that a guy named Neil

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Ferguson said would kill as many as

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50,000 people it killed a couple of

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hundred Neil Ferguson also weighed in on

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avian flu a couple million there again

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it kills about 400 people yeah that's

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the same Neil Ferguson that came up with

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the model saying as many as 2.2 million

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American deaths from covin 19 Neil

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Ferguson personally learned that the

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more outrageous you are the more wrong

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you are the more you are rewarded all of

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these people have been taught

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Ebola one Ebola to I mean I Zika virus I

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wrote about all of these things I was

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right they were wrong look where I am

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look where they are we each and every

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foe epidemic each and every for disaster

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these people learned we can get away

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with this well and also aren't doctors

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in general just kind of predisposed to

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give you worst-case scenario and and

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that's kind of what they're doing they

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want to err on the side of worst-case

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scenario because you know if you

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underestimated something now you're

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really heads on a chopping block but if

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you overestimated it you know we air it

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on the side of extra caution everybody's

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gonna cut you some slack is well okay

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thank God it didn't turn out to be that

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bad but we erred on the side of caution

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blessed is the additional factor of you

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always see this they say the only reason

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it didn't turn out to be apocalyptic

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like we said it would be is because we

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said it would be a

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galenic because people listen to us and

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they took the proper actions and that's

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never been the case what what incredible

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things did we do to fight Ebola nothing

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really

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Ebola was always in African disease it

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was always slated to remain in African

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disease a few cases I came by airplane

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to other countries and and nobody got

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infected from those few cases SARS was

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always had a high lethality rate was

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very very hard to spread just on and on

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and on

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I personally wrote at that time these

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things are exaggerated these predictions

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are false

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I didn't write in hindsight I was right

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they were all wrong how is it that Mike

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Fomento with no formal epidemiological

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training no no formal very logical

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training or anything like that

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how was it I was right and they were all

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wrong with their their degrees and their

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positions and what happened and it

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really comes down to you know a couple

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of things I hate being wrong it just

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it's a OCD thing it just drives me nuts

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I will put in any amount of research to

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not be wrong but another thing is I want

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to be right I want to tell people the

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truth whatever it happens to be they

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don't want to be right they don't want

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itself be people the truth whatever it

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happens to be they want to exaggerate

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and isn't the other parallel to AIDS

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that just as with AIDS they wanted to

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make it appear that anyone can get this

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with coronavirus it appears very clear

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it affects the elderly and people with

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serious pre-existing health conditions

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but they don't want people to think that

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all no this is just an elderly thing

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it's just people with health conditions

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and so they exaggerate how much it

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affects your average healthy person

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right you see it in the slogans like

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we're all in this together it's just

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like aids aids doesn't discriminate for

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komen it's we're all in this together

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no we're not all in this together almost

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nobody in the United States under age 20

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has died of kovat under age 20 you are

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less likely to get the disease you are

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less likely to spread the disease a lot

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of people don't know that and you're

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much less likely to die of the disease

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almost no chance of dying of COBIT if

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you're under 20 for that matter of

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you're under 30 there's almost no chance

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of die of the disease it's basically you

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know by the time a up to 60 65 75 80

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that's when your risks start to get real

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and even there as you pointed out almost

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all of these people have pre-existing

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conditions diabetes heart disease as a

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lot of things like that

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the CDC this is also a new CDC study has

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found that 93% of all Coppa deaths in

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the United States those people had at